PSA: What to ask for when buying an Alta


OneLapper

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Hey!

I want to put this out there. It's REALLY important that a buyer asks the seller to provide screenshots of the battery with MT at 100%, 50% and around 25% state of charge.

There are C36 bikes out there that are being sold to buyers after the codes have been cleared and the rest of the pack has been brought to the charge level of the offending P group.

A single screenshot of the battery tab in MT is not sufficient evidence that the bike isn't afflicted with the C36 issue.
 

snydes

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Excellent point! @Philip , perhaps we should pin this up somewhere?

And to add to this, ride logs tell all. Problem is they are painfully slow to download and you have to know how to read them, but they can’t (at least not easily) be tampered with.
 

privateer703

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Altoona, PA
Prospective buyers won't have a laptop with MT and most likely someone trying to pull this off will not acknowledge that they have a laptop so our list of those with MT willing to help is an even more useful tool now. If someone does clear the Code 36 and balances the like you mentioned above, when would the code come back? Would it come back after it starts charging? Trying to figure out a solution that might not require MT if the buyer just doesn't have anyone nearby.
 

C5tor

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San Ramon, CA
Prospective buyers won't have a laptop with MT and most likely someone trying to pull this off will not acknowledge that they have a laptop so our list of those with MT willing to help is an even more useful tool now. If someone does clear the Code 36 and balances the like you mentioned above, when would the code come back? Would it come back after it starts charging? Trying to figure out a solution that might not require MT if the buyer just doesn't have anyone nearby.
Also, if the seller doesn’t voluntarily supply this MT info, I doubt if they would let the buyer (even if they had their own MT laptop) both plug the bike in and then ride it around for an hour to drop the state of charge to 25%.

Not saying it is a bad idea to get as much data as you can. Do everything at your disposal to check it out six ways from Sunday. But in the end, buyer beware. The battery might be fine, but the inverter might be duct-taped together and the forks full of jello. Hard to tell from pics, and some folks will just be dishonest.

Go with your gut, and expect there may be some unexpected things with the bike. The AOF will try to help fix it if we can.
 

snydes

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Pennsylvania
For sure if someone wants to spend 10k +/- on a used bike with no manufacturer support, and doesn’t care to do any homework about what their getting into, than it’s on them.

Having the bike at 25% or so to begin with and then charging it back to 100% should trigger any/most cleared code 36’s from what I’ve seen. That doesn’t help those scenarios where firmware isn’t current and so the code wasn’t triggered. Or if someone rolled back to an older version to mask the code from being triggered.

Maybe the best move for a new buyer would be to find another local knowledgeable owner to potential help evaluate the bike before buying.
 

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