Displays
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Silent But Dirty
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You will be non operational without a dash.
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Someone needs to sniff it and program a chip to give the same reply.
Silent But Dirty
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Maybe the pinholes on the back of the display PCBA could be used for this. There are 9 pinholes, and as far as I understand, Can bus uses 9 pins...
bluefxstc
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CAN generly uses a 9 pin connector, but only uses 4 of the 9 pins. Pin 2, CAN low. Pin 3, Grd. Pin 7, CAN high. Pin 9, V+ Pins may vary depending on the connector, but just about any 4 pin connector could be used.
Hmm perhaps a CAN termination plug isn’t the only answer.
Then we get into building a circuit to mimic the display to ping the ACM controller with correct packet response..
Seems like the ultimate answer is to just build a replacement display. Because no matter how you protect the display it’ll get crunched somehow!
Anyone have a crunched display willing to “donate” into a kickstarter effort to build new ones? Can’t be that much going on in there!? The ACM .. well
Speedkills
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A strato-pi (raspberry-pi with can bus support) plus their display might make a nice replacement. Strato Pi Touch - Raspberry Pi based Touch Panel - Wall mount Metal CE Still need access to the software or use a can bus sniffer to figure out what messages to send though.
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Wow, that Strato-Pi looks awesome. Imagine being able to integrate that into an Alta and use it for the display? I wish I was tech savvy enough.....
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Almost 500 euro for a raspberry pi with a touch screen? I can make that for wayyyyyyy less.
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Can you also make it work like the Alta display? Do it!!!
Motophyllic
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I find it impossible to believe that someone designed the electronics for this bike and made it work so well and that someone else can’t simply hack into it and substitute a different display. Does anyone understand what the display contributes to the can bus? Can’t the packet be mimicked, or the software modified?
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I'm sure we'll figure it out.
We need a working piece to test with. And someone that can do the work.
I think we're all kinda waiting on the final final word as well.
bluefxstc
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Not a real big problem doing that. You just need the right skill set. I have been on the periphery of people doing that to electric cars. Sniff out the CAN traffic on a working bike, figure out what digital code/traffic means and program a small device (arduino with a CAN shield) to either spoof the commands or control the device depending on the goal. There are people out there that have done this for Tesla drive units/batteries and the drive units of other EVs so it is very possible. All that being said it is not a skill that I have, but it is possible.
Motophyllic
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Maybe an electric bicycle controller. It is such a common schematic; battery, BMS, mother board which controls throttle, maps, and battery system. Then, we could create an app that has slide bars for creating custom maps and a button for switching current direction so the bike has reverse. 
I’m sure there are a ton of people who could easily do this for us. First problem I have with my bike, that’s the direction I’m going.
I’m sure there are a ton of people who could easily do this for us. First problem I have with my bike, that’s the direction I’m going.
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I would pay at least $500 to the guy who programs a button that would give me 65 hp! And another $500 for the button that will do wheelies for me.Maybe an electric bicycle controller. It is such a common schematic; battery, BMS, mother board which controls throttle, maps, and battery system. Then, we could create an app that has slide bars for creating custom maps and a button for switching current direction so the bike has reverse.
Redwolf
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No need to add stuff to get it to do wheelies, just apply generous amounts of twist with your right wrist. Use mode 4 for best results.
Motophyllic
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Yeah, I don’t need any buttons for mine to come up just fine.
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