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teddyquinn

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#21
Wow. Such a lame response.

That last line contradicts what they did in Portland with the FXs....

(Disclaimer - I formerly worked there so I now and then jab hard on Zero)
I feel like, sadly, Alta's shuttering likely made Zero even more fearful of reentering the offroad market.

Alta's execution was impeccable, and not so easy for anyone else (even Zero) to replicate without significant effort.

Hopefully someone will try again sometime. I commend Sur Ron, though quality control and material issues / worries are real. Cake, so long as they continue to grow and make money, will likely bring larger models to market as battery tech evolves, though we're likely still several years away from anything as good as MXR/EXR.
 

F451

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I think Honda, KTM, and Yamaha are our best bets for the next mfr to release a full sized, full performance dirt bike.

I am wondering if the majors are delaying the release of these bikes as long as they can for fear they will make less money on parts and maintenance? Is their significant push back from their dealers about selling full sized e-dirt bikes?

I know it sounds silly, but I just can't figure out why one of them hasn't released one yet. The obvious answer would be they just don't see it as a profitable venture yet, but I think they would sell every single bike they produce and people would love the bikes, just like they did with the Altas. With their deep pockets, established dealer networks, etc, all of the obstacles that Alta had to overcome are a non-issue.

Or they just haven't reached Alta levels of performance yet? I can't believe they can't duplicate, or come pretty close to what Alta did, its not like they can't get their hands on some Altas to study them.

What's holding them up?

I guess they are too busy making cash with their ICE offerings to take the whole e-dirt bike segment seriously. Meanwhile we have all kinds of e-dirt bikes cropping up like mushrooms from all kinds of small businesses and home brewed enthusiasts.
 

Rashid510

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I feel like, sadly, Alta's shuttering likely made Zero even more fearful of reentering the offroad market.

Alta's execution was impeccable, and not so easy for anyone else (even Zero) to replicate without significant effort.
I wont go down the wonderful Zero rabbit hole...but heres my PG version.

Fearful? No its based on resources. the SR platform (which makes up most of there commuter bikes and sales) was lonng in the tooth. Hence why the SR/F(streetfighter) and SR/S (faried version) have recently released out. There...premium...for a Zero. Its what there trying to carve in the EV Moto market with Energicas swooping in with large KW packs and proper faired/race style bikes.

The FX (dirtbike) platform is very much long in the tooth. When I was working for the MFG team at Zero, I did admit at one time I lusted over the FXS and the FX. It was a cool looking and interesting motorcycle. But never had the badassery like the SM. Or the fit. or finish. Which is why I have an SM in the garage.

I wont go into any more details but theirs hard working men and women over at Zero HQ who were sooo wanting us to stay alive, because it gave them the firepower to go to there guys and go why not?? They can do it.
 

C5tor

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A few weeks ago, Cake was doing demo rides out at Carnegie SVRA, near Tracy, CA. They were only doing rides by appointment, though, so I didn't ride one. The Cake rep guy said he was coming back in a month though. Not sure if they already did it again or not. Not sure if the signup was on the Cake website or what. Just FYI.

We inadvertently intimidated one of the test riders by riding next to him with our two Altas, which are much bigger. We both gave him a thumbs up, but then we accelerated away quickly down the gravel road, leaving him in the dust. Probably roosted him a bit. I saw him turn the bike around and slowly ride back to the demo van, looking a bit disappointed. ;-)
 

Rix

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A few weeks ago, Cake was doing demo rides out at Carnegie SVRA, near Tracy, CA. They were only doing rides by appointment, though, so I didn't ride one. The Cake rep guy said he was coming back in a month though. Not sure if they already did it again or not. Not sure if the signup was on the Cake website or what. Just FYI.

We inadvertently intimidated one of the test riders by riding next to him with our two Altas, which are much bigger. We both gave him a thumbs up, but then we accelerating away quickly down the gravel road, leaving him in the dust. Probably roosted him a bit. I saw him turn the bike around and slowly ride back to the demo van, looking a bit disappointed. ;-)
I rode a Cake OR last year back to back with my EXR. To me, the Cake in map 3 felt almost as fast as the EXR in map1 up to about 45MPH, of course this was a butt dyno comparison, not necessary the most accurate.
 
#27
I ran into the demo thing at Metcalf and Zack let me take one out for a spin. I think I did all Four Fingers at Metcalf.
So it was a trail ride evaluation. The little front wheel did not work on the washboards. No clue for race rippin.

Zack was way cool. He would set something up absoutly depending on the logistics. Is that a disclaimer, or what?
 
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